22 Words

Exercises in getting to the point (or avoiding it) by saying what I have to say in twenty-two words, not counting titles.

10 things we don’t mention in worship songs, but that I’m happy God saved me from.

  1. STDs
  2. Philosophy
  3. Freeloading
  4. Incarceration
  5. Vagabondage
  6. Whiskey binges
  7. Illegitimate children
  8. Pack-a-day smoking
  9. Successful rockstardom
  10. Getting run over by a train

What’s your list?

51 Comments »

  Abraham Piper wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 10:45 am

Also, let me say this before anyone else does: I know it sounds like a country song.

This makes me all the more grateful to Jesus.

  John Piper wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 11:04 am

Same as yours,

Dad

  KP wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 11:46 am

Wait, wait, wait–I call shenanigans. That can’t be your list too, Dad, or there are a lot of interesting stories you never told us.

Your son,
Karsten

  ED wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 11:53 am

1) Wrath.
2) Myself.
3) Things.
4) Nihilism.
5) Gluttony.
6) Boredom.
6) Other people. 8) Sentimentality.
9) A variety of isms.
10) Calvinist ancestry.

Maybe it’s time to write some new songs…

  ED wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 11:55 am

How odd. Two sixes and no 7 or 8. Number 11 would have been tiredness, but apparently that’s not made the list.

  Elizabeth Esther wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 12:23 pm

when were you a successful rockstar?

  Abraham Piper wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 12:42 pm

Esther,

I was saved from success through complete failure.

  Elizabeth Esther wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 12:49 pm

i see!

my acting career met a similar demise. for which i am now deeply and utterly thankful to God.

  Adam wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 12:49 pm

1. Independence
2. Indifference
3. Ignorance
4. Immorality
5. Immaturity
6. Indulgence
7. Idolatry
8. Marijuana, Mushrooms, Suicide

God saved me, is saving me, and will save me from these…

  Rebby wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 12:56 pm

1) World of Warcraft Binges
2) The Emo scene
3) Fundamentalism

  KP wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 12:59 pm

1 - bitter sarcasm
2 - loneliness
3 - lying (most days)
4 - using alcohol
5 - cynical academic achievements
6 - believing things have to go through my head to get into my heart
7 - reflexively defending my flaws and sins (Now I count ten and deny that I’m about to before I start…)
8 - confusing brains & coping skills with lovability & righteousness
9 - bleeding to death out of the lining in my own stomach
10 - obliviousness to beauty

(OK, this was really hard to do candidly and specifically. I suggest that if you want this meme to take off, you get us to start listing things we’d be happy for God to save our coworkers / pastors / wives / enemies / presidents from…)

KP

  Amber (Bringing Good Home) wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 1:18 pm

I second most of your list. Even #10 — what’s up with #10? - (we almost got hit by a train once in the middle of the night at a train crossing with no safety arms.)

I’d also add: all cigarettes and illegal drugs (never saw the appeal) and gambling (never saw the appeal of that, either.)

  Bryan DeWire wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 1:20 pm

God is so good- thanks for sharing Abraham.

  Jake wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 1:40 pm

1. Terrible money management
2. Being incredibly judgmental (still in progress)
3. Cheesy Christian music
4. Childlessness (which is of course not a sin, but I’m grateful he brought us out of it)
5. Divorce

Oh, and
6. Sharks. Or really any kind of animal attack. Thus far hath the Lord helped me.

  Matt Ford wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 1:45 pm

Pride that would burst the solar system (and think it could)

callous controversy and domineering

reckless escapades looking for thrill

Being a rockstar (O how I wanted it and O how I’m glad I never got it)

Lust, lust, lust

fearing people

cynical criticism

time wasting

apathy

materialism

(He saved and is saving… ;)

  carissa wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 2:12 pm

-depression/isolation
-vain intellectualism
-idolatry of rationalism
-fear of man
-insensitivity and a terrible temper
-guilt, guilt, guilt
-journalism school
-pride in achievement
-divorced parents (they got saved too, and just in time)

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  Rachel wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 3:42 pm

1.myself
2.selfishness
3.bitterness
4.people pleasing
5.depression
6.poverty
7.drunkeness
8.addiction
9.hoplessness
10.hell

  jennapants wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 3:46 pm

pretty much all these lists and more…
i think “pride that would burst the solar system” belongs in a sovereign grace song…

  Frank Turk wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 3:54 pm

Ph.D.
Poetry
great hair

  Stephen Altrogge wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 3:56 pm

I enjoyed this post Abraham. Thanks for putting this together.

I’m grateful I was saved from the self-righteousness that happens when you grow up as a pastor’s kid…

  Justin Wheeler wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 3:59 pm

Myself…If left to myself I am capable of these and much more, because things lurk around the corner that I haven’t dreamed of indulging in. But, the all sufficient power of God to deliver us from ourselves when we had not seen the need to be so delivered, is worth singing about.

  Melisssa Eimers wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 4:12 pm

STDs….I wonder how that would sound in a song?

  Chris wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 4:12 pm

I think that a worship song that included each of those ten things would make for a very interesting benediction indeed. And probably scare any visitors.

  Richard wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 4:18 pm

I’m glad Jesus saves even while these things remain problems. He died for me while I was yet a sinner. Still am.

  Richard wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 4:31 pm

That being said I understand and appreciate your post. I have my own list.

  JCP wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 4:42 pm

1. Riches
2. Poverty
3. Singleness
4. Friendlessness
5. Facebook Frenzy
6. Not-Knowing-God
7. Being-a-father-lessness
8. CAMPONTHIS Criticism
9. Pre-anaesthetic dentistry
10. Impact of my stupid choices
None of these things have touched me, praise Him

  JCP wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 4:51 pm

Melissa
STDs….I wonder how that would sound in a song?

Check out: Larry Norman - Why Don’t You Look Into Jesus
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TliWDSLrYb8&feature=related

  JCP wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 5:02 pm

If I had thought of it at the time I would have included PERFECTIONISM, but know I see my #8 being out of alignment (I typed in Word then cut and paste!) and it is really bothering me, so maybe it was right not to have included it! Sorry mom, hope I didn’t dissapoint you :-)

  Sam James wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 5:31 pm

1) As an apologetics major, I must say I’m a little put off by “philosophy” being on the list. Philosophy has such radical implications for everyday life. Wouldn’t you agree that a person’s eternal destiny depends ultimately about what they believe about God in Christ (aka theology, a discipline of philosophy)?

2) Just to make you think, I am seriously considering completely banning the phrase “illegitimate children” from my vocab. It is such a fundamentally confused term; there are NO illegitimate children, just illegitimate and unwise parents. I know it’s not Christian kosher, but I would say “bastard child” 1000 times more quickly than illegitimate.

  Chelsea wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 5:48 pm

In no particular order
1. STD’s
2. Illegitimate Children
3. A life of loneliness
4. Criminal charges of any sort (For the drugs or underage drinking)
5. Homelessness
6. The type of divorced parents that don’t get along (mine do)
7. Premature menopause
8. Carbon Monoxide poisoning
9. Traumatic Brain Injury
10. Flunking out of college

  Chelsea wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 5:50 pm

*Sam, you can change my #2 to “Illegitimate and unwise parentage”

  Scott Clair wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 6:16 pm

1. Myself
2. Abortion
3. Politics
4. Mental Illness
5. Self Esteem / Health Wealth Gospel
6. A severe personality disorder that pushes people away.
7. Greed
8. Comparing my Heavenly Father with my earthly father.
9. Complacency
10. My past

  Emily wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 7:15 pm

1. Materialism
2. Vapid emotionalism
3. Robotic obedience
4. Boys who I thought were marriage material but (God knew) they were not

  chamblee54 wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 8:11 pm

1- Jesus Worship
2- Getting caught driving DUI
3- republican politics
4- pre arthroscopy knee surgery
5- believing the doctor who told me to get spine surgery
6- The Unification Church
7- confusing G-d for my father
8- Living anywhere except Georgia
9- cable television
10-Making complete lists

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  Abraham Piper wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 8:51 pm

Don’t worry, Sam. Not everyone needs to be saved from the same stuff.

I needed out of philosophy, but I’m glad others don’t.

Regarding the phrase “illegitimate children,” you’re right. I actually have a post about it ready to go, but you pretty much covered it.

I use it because people know what it means, not because it’s ideal.

  Scott E wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 10:38 pm

1. The pride of completing my seminary degree (not that its bad to have one, but I was pride bound)

2. The hopelessness of utter failure because I could not complete my seminary degree.

3. A ruptured appendix that set up gangrene and later abscessed.

4. An adulterous affair (thank God for my faithful wife)

5. The cocaine habit

6. Attempted murder charges

7. Being able to play the blues

8. Deep seated pride (still in progress)

9. Living in my car

10. Always getting what I want (still in progress too).

  James Lee wrote @ May 8, 2008 at 10:47 pm

1. Total Depravity
2. Cocaine/Heroin
3. Homosexuality
4. Prostitution
5. Homelessness
6. Dereliction
7. Institutionalization
8. Humanism
9. Eternal Death
10. Isolation from the brethren

  GUNNY HARTMAN wrote @ May 9, 2008 at 12:25 am

1. Achy-Breaky Heart
2. The Macarana
3. Having to attend a Celine Dion concert

  Really Robin wrote @ May 9, 2008 at 9:50 am

Truly saved me from, or kept me from? They are two different things.

I am thankful, also, for the thinks He has allowed me to go through! Those illegitimate children for instance. [I've always loved that phrase. My children were legitimate children - they were the same as every other child!] God used them to pull me from the Roman Catholic Church because of my indignance at them not wanting to baptize them for me. It was then He drew me to Him.

Praise God and His sovereign grace!

  Jamie wrote @ May 9, 2008 at 10:11 am

Death (deserved or self-inflicted)
Self-injury
Immorality
Loneliness
Pride
Self-Centeredness
Fearing what people are thinking
Addictions
Unwise relationship choices
The need to please

  Abraham Piper wrote @ May 9, 2008 at 10:19 am

Robin,

You’re right. It is good that what I have been saved from is not that same as what everyone else has been saved from.

Also, you’re right about the phrase “illegitimate children.” It misplaces blame. I only used it because people know what it means, not because it is accurate.

  Really Robin wrote @ May 9, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Abraham,

I didn’t take offense, I promise. I’ve just always found that phrase to be humorous.

I think, in my unsaved state, I said something like “Really? Don’t tell the government because I plan on claiming them!” when the priest suggested my twin boys were illegitimate children.

  Larry Norman wrote @ May 10, 2008 at 5:57 am

In no particular order

1) Myself
2) Wasted Life.
3) Getting wasted.
4) The need to be better than others
5)Wrath
6) The need to swear and be cynical
7) Prosperity “gospel” 8) Sexual Immorality
9) Weed.
10) Wasted suffering.

  ED… wrote @ May 11, 2008 at 3:21 am

Ah -

So it was eight bracket that became the shaded smiley. I did wonder… 8)

  Carley wrote @ May 11, 2008 at 2:21 pm

1-Eternal damnation
2-Living hell
3-Myself
4-Armenian theology
5-Suicide
6-Despair
7-Going to college when I was sixteen and totally unprepared (maybe at 18 I still am?)
8-Foolish friends
9-Home-churching (not that it’s inherently bad, but I’m so glad to be in the church that I’m at now)
10-A life without purpose

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  Jack wrote @ May 12, 2008 at 1:28 am

1) chat rooms
2) expensive things
3) people-pleasing
4) scaring girls with declarations of undying love
5) denial
6) emasculation
7) misplaced shame 8) parents
9) MySpace
10) self-pity

  Jack wrote @ May 12, 2008 at 1:29 am

8) being ashamed of admitting my mistakes

  Greg wrote @ May 13, 2008 at 1:43 pm

1. Suicide
2. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
3. Sexual perversion and depravity
4. Successful Rockstardom
5. Pornography
6. Fornication
7. Drunkeness
8. Depression
9. Broken back and paralysis after an ATV accident
10. Guilt (still struggle with this one, but I believe I am saved anyways)

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