You could just as easily change the descriptions on the right to different chronological art movements.
1. Baroque 2. Impressionism 3. Post-Impressionism 4. Cubism 5. Futurism 6. Abstract Expressionism 7. Surrealism 8. Dada 9. Postmoderism
But then they’d be out of order, Dada comes before surrealism, and abstract impressionism. Baroque doesn’t seem represented well, and post modernism would be more akin to stage 7 then stage 8. Also considering that I could consider myself ‘well informed’ on the subject the account of the behavior of the artist seems to make it more credible. Quite in sync with what I’ve ‘been lead to believe’ are the effects of LSD. Esp. timeframe and subject’s attitude descriptions. It would make logical sense that the artist who’s been well trained takes with him during his experience that which is a part of him, in this case his artistic training and influences.
I was just making a funny observation. It does seem a little far fetched but I think this is probably real just based on my experiences around other people that were on LSD. Not sure though. If it is real it is tempting me to trip a couple hours before my next drawing session to improve my artwork!
yeah, i was wondering where the crayon coloring was. looks to me like only pencil and/or charcoal was used.
don’t understand dosages, but if he was given more than one dose, why one hour after the first one? LSD takes awhile to set in and then it takes a really long time to wear off. So…in this case, I guess some of the time frame seems right. i wouldn’t be surprised if a person could do this artwork on LSD either. functioning normally in public would be unbelievable, but a skilled artist drawing in a closed off room with one other person and coming up with this set…it’s believable to me.
the thing that seems hoaxy to me is the whole “government experiment with an artist on drugs” part. so, to clarify, i think a good artist on LSD could do this, i’m just skeptical that this experiment took place b/c that would be so dumb. on the other hand, our government DOES spend tax money in lots of asinine ways…
It actually happened. I shit you not. the CIA in particular wanted to see if LSD could be used as a truth syrum, there was even talk of using it to help create psychic spies. The government was pretty crazy back in the day.. then again, maybe is still is.
You’re kidding, right? Gov does drug testing on soldiers and civilians all the time, has for decades. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s verifiable fact, you can look up the data, it’s studied by psychologists and med students. I studied this experiment in Neuro, along with a ton of others done by the Army on soldiers, by the Gov on civilians, etc. It’s all voluntary (except who knows how “voluntary” things are in the military.)
As someone who actually did LSD a few times back in the day, the progression made sense to me. If it is a hoax it is a good one. BTW – any benefit that I perceived at the time was dwarfed by the risks. Looking back I see no benefit that I consider lasting.
I’m tripped out by the fact I appear to be replying to “myself” about this. But I also speak from experience, and the progression makes perfect sense.
It does actually last that long, and longer, depending on the dose. There is definitely a “peaking,” and a “leveling off” and a lengthy “come down” as the drug wears off.
While I generally agree with the you about the benefit/risks, like every experience in life, I am not sure it’s about cost/benefit analysis in the end. Our experiences, both good and not so good, all shape who we are, and how we express ourselves.
That same artist should be tested with every drug and do the same 9 stages with each. I wouldn’t suggest it, but it would be pretty cool to see the effects of different drugs as well on the same painter drawing the same painting.
If you haven’t had the chance to see the History Channel special on the 60s, their treatment of the LSD “movement” (including the government’s role, which influences me to believe this is NOT a hoax) completely removed from me any latent desire to try out going on an acid trip. The destructive force of the drug is shocking, to say the least. Sadly, it seems benign now compared to the terror of methamphetamines.
I do see how drugs led to the changes that defined modern art.
Okay first of all this is obviously bullshit. Taking 50 UG of acid is going to be hardly felt at all. Taking 50 UG of acid an hour after you took 50 UG of acid would be like taking 75UG of acid max at the start since it builds a very fast tolerance. I have used LSD over 300 times in my life I have a lot of experience with it. Acid is not going to affect a persons ability to draw by this much at such a low dose.
To the person who said the risks outweigh the benefits, lol. What risks? The only real risk of using LSD is that some fascist government religious police thug is going to ruin your life for having it. LSD is less toxic than vitamin C on a pharmaceutical index (minimum dose for effects to minimum dose for death). LSD causes no long term negative effects what-so-ever unless you are predisopsed to a mental illness in which case it can lower the age of onset. If you have a family history of mental illness don’t use LSD. LSD doesn’t cause chromosome damage, the risk of a flashback is pretty close to 0 and not a direct effect of LSD either any intense experience can lead to a flashback later in life. As I said before I have used LSD over 300 times and I have never had a flashback. I have never had a bad trip. I have enjoyed greatly every single trip I have had on LSD, it brought me closer to an understanding of God (from being totally atheist, although I still hate organized religion and do not in the slightest think that the things in the Bible or Quran or other books are true). It has IMPROVED my life.
Please stop spreading lies and government propaganda. The only bad effect of LSD is some Fascist wants to ruin your life if you touch it. Go do some ACTUAL research on drugs. Actual research means not only reading government studies. The government LIES about drugs, plain and simple. Stop drinking the koolaid and come to your own conclusion. Don’t listen to all the hearsay either. Go read some academic papers on LSD that are NOT FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT. Go to erowid.org they have some actually true information on drugs!
i agree with this guy i dont know where you people get the idea lsd is so bad. All drugs have the potential to help and hurt just like your perscription medication as far as i know lsd is one of the safer just because they havent found something to label it as curing doesnt mean it has no value to society and should be demonized.
Wow, that was a hell of a rant. Now you can stumble back over into greasy corner you came out of, and continue dosing yourself on “my precious.” Your tolerance could go up even higher. ;)
The last thing the world needs is more people on drugs. Justify it all you want, but LSD makes the people who use it behave erratically. I’m sure people who take LSD make bad decisions. Decisions that they wouldn’t have made if they hadn’t mad the stupid decision of taking LSD.
So I assume you want to make LSD available to anyone right? So they can take it and it will only affect them, not anybody else. Because they are isolated and the things they do to themselves don’t have any bearing on those around them. I would like to point out that that is flawed thinking.
I recently heard a story that Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter volunteered for some of these experiments in the late ’50s. The first part of the story is that he was asked how he felt and said, “Like a tear in the eye of the Buddha.” The second part is that the military men had to find a dictionary to look up what Buddha was.
Stage 6 looks like the most fun.
Now I wanna grow some ‘shrooms!
I had no idea it lasted so long!
Modern art is born.
You could just as easily change the descriptions on the right to different chronological art movements.
1. Baroque 2. Impressionism 3. Post-Impressionism 4. Cubism 5. Futurism 6. Abstract Expressionism 7. Surrealism 8. Dada 9. Postmoderism
I have a nagging feeling in my gut that this thing is a hoax… Your observation makes that sense stronger.
But then they’d be out of order, Dada comes before surrealism, and abstract impressionism. Baroque doesn’t seem represented well, and post modernism would be more akin to stage 7 then stage 8. Also considering that I could consider myself ‘well informed’ on the subject the account of the behavior of the artist seems to make it more credible. Quite in sync with what I’ve ‘been lead to believe’ are the effects of LSD. Esp. timeframe and subject’s attitude descriptions. It would make logical sense that the artist who’s been well trained takes with him during his experience that which is a part of him, in this case his artistic training and influences.
If it is a hoax, it’s a well researched one.
I was just making a funny observation. It does seem a little far fetched but I think this is probably real just based on my experiences around other people that were on LSD. Not sure though. If it is real it is tempting me to trip a couple hours before my next drawing session to improve my artwork!
We studied this experiment in Neuro. It’s legit.
yeah, i was wondering where the crayon coloring was. looks to me like only pencil and/or charcoal was used.
don’t understand dosages, but if he was given more than one dose, why one hour after the first one? LSD takes awhile to set in and then it takes a really long time to wear off. So…in this case, I guess some of the time frame seems right. i wouldn’t be surprised if a person could do this artwork on LSD either. functioning normally in public would be unbelievable, but a skilled artist drawing in a closed off room with one other person and coming up with this set…it’s believable to me.
the thing that seems hoaxy to me is the whole “government experiment with an artist on drugs” part. so, to clarify, i think a good artist on LSD could do this, i’m just skeptical that this experiment took place b/c that would be so dumb. on the other hand, our government DOES spend tax money in lots of asinine ways…
It actually happened. I shit you not. the CIA in particular wanted to see if LSD could be used as a truth syrum, there was even talk of using it to help create psychic spies. The government was pretty crazy back in the day.. then again, maybe is still is.
You’re kidding, right? Gov does drug testing on soldiers and civilians all the time, has for decades. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s verifiable fact, you can look up the data, it’s studied by psychologists and med students. I studied this experiment in Neuro, along with a ton of others done by the Army on soldiers, by the Gov on civilians, etc. It’s all voluntary (except who knows how “voluntary” things are in the military.)
Crayons were still black and white in the 50′s. ;)
As someone who actually did LSD a few times back in the day, the progression made sense to me. If it is a hoax it is a good one. BTW – any benefit that I perceived at the time was dwarfed by the risks. Looking back I see no benefit that I consider lasting.
I’m tripped out by the fact I appear to be replying to “myself” about this. But I also speak from experience, and the progression makes perfect sense.
It does actually last that long, and longer, depending on the dose. There is definitely a “peaking,” and a “leveling off” and a lengthy “come down” as the drug wears off.
While I generally agree with the you about the benefit/risks, like every experience in life, I am not sure it’s about cost/benefit analysis in the end. Our experiences, both good and not so good, all shape who we are, and how we express ourselves.
Makes you think it might be interesting under controlled circumstances. Not that I’ve ever imbibed.
That same artist should be tested with every drug and do the same 9 stages with each. I wouldn’t suggest it, but it would be pretty cool to see the effects of different drugs as well on the same painter drawing the same painting.
Stage 5 is very Lennon-esque.
If you haven’t had the chance to see the History Channel special on the 60s, their treatment of the LSD “movement” (including the government’s role, which influences me to believe this is NOT a hoax) completely removed from me any latent desire to try out going on an acid trip. The destructive force of the drug is shocking, to say the least. Sadly, it seems benign now compared to the terror of methamphetamines.
I do see how drugs led to the changes that defined modern art.
Okay first of all this is obviously bullshit. Taking 50 UG of acid is going to be hardly felt at all. Taking 50 UG of acid an hour after you took 50 UG of acid would be like taking 75UG of acid max at the start since it builds a very fast tolerance. I have used LSD over 300 times in my life I have a lot of experience with it. Acid is not going to affect a persons ability to draw by this much at such a low dose.
To the person who said the risks outweigh the benefits, lol. What risks? The only real risk of using LSD is that some fascist government religious police thug is going to ruin your life for having it. LSD is less toxic than vitamin C on a pharmaceutical index (minimum dose for effects to minimum dose for death). LSD causes no long term negative effects what-so-ever unless you are predisopsed to a mental illness in which case it can lower the age of onset. If you have a family history of mental illness don’t use LSD. LSD doesn’t cause chromosome damage, the risk of a flashback is pretty close to 0 and not a direct effect of LSD either any intense experience can lead to a flashback later in life. As I said before I have used LSD over 300 times and I have never had a flashback. I have never had a bad trip. I have enjoyed greatly every single trip I have had on LSD, it brought me closer to an understanding of God (from being totally atheist, although I still hate organized religion and do not in the slightest think that the things in the Bible or Quran or other books are true). It has IMPROVED my life.
Please stop spreading lies and government propaganda. The only bad effect of LSD is some Fascist wants to ruin your life if you touch it. Go do some ACTUAL research on drugs. Actual research means not only reading government studies. The government LIES about drugs, plain and simple. Stop drinking the koolaid and come to your own conclusion. Don’t listen to all the hearsay either. Go read some academic papers on LSD that are NOT FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT. Go to erowid.org they have some actually true information on drugs!
i agree with this guy i dont know where you people get the idea lsd is so bad. All drugs have the potential to help and hurt just like your perscription medication as far as i know lsd is one of the safer just because they havent found something to label it as curing doesnt mean it has no value to society and should be demonized.
Wow, that was a hell of a rant. Now you can stumble back over into greasy corner you came out of, and continue dosing yourself on “my precious.” Your tolerance could go up even higher. ;)
The last thing the world needs is more people on drugs. Justify it all you want, but LSD makes the people who use it behave erratically. I’m sure people who take LSD make bad decisions. Decisions that they wouldn’t have made if they hadn’t mad the stupid decision of taking LSD.
So I assume you want to make LSD available to anyone right? So they can take it and it will only affect them, not anybody else. Because they are isolated and the things they do to themselves don’t have any bearing on those around them. I would like to point out that that is flawed thinking.
I recently heard a story that Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter volunteered for some of these experiments in the late ’50s. The first part of the story is that he was asked how he felt and said, “Like a tear in the eye of the Buddha.” The second part is that the military men had to find a dictionary to look up what Buddha was.
I like this comment best.
I would so buy number 6. It’s awesome.