Aug 12, 2011
Bill Gates saving for a Lamborghini…and then responding to skeptics
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Aug 12, 2011
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Vaccinating = Assassinating — What’s in those vaccines? Mercury?
Ava, you’re tragically misinformed. Vaccines save lives. The science proving this is well above rebuke. Get educated and turn off the cable news fright channels.
The research that claimed vaccines were dangerous was shoddily done and has been repeatedly disproved. Gates and his foundation did a very good thing, and many lives will be saved through his work — which is better for humanity than sitting on the internet talking crap about the good works of others.
Actually, it depends. Many ”Cocktails” (Multiple vaccines in a single shot) in young children can cause a lot of damage, and I can’t quite remember what condition it is, but there has been links found with vaccination in children and a mental disability, I think it was Autism. If you want to disagree, talk to my friend who lost his son because a cocktail caused his son to need hospitalization, and because the doctors didn’t want themselves to blame, put it on the parents by claiming SBS (Shaken baby syndrome). Also, due to us vaccinating EVERYTHING we can find, humans
1)Aren’t becoming naturally immune to anything, causing us to get sicker than we should with minor things
2)When we do get things like chicken pox at an older age than we would without, it’s worse than had we gotten it as children.
No, vaccines do not cause “damage” and don’t cause autism. This has been proven over and over. Look up Penn and Teller Bullshit Autism on Youtube and watch. They make a very concise case that explains even if vaccines DID cause autism, the benefits so far outweigh any imaginary risk that it’s laughable that people wouldn’t vaccinate based on that fear. The real fear was before vaccinations were popular and several of your kids would have died from things like polio. That’s part of why people had 10 kids, because you knew some would die from diseases and other causes, it was inevitable…..these mothers who freak out over false claims of autism wouldn’t know what to do watching their child die of a horrible disease and knowing there was nothing you could do about it…..
The link between vaccinations and Autism has been studied in recent years since one celebrity brought it up, and blamed it for her son’s Autism.
The reason there was originally thought to be a link between Autism and vaccines is because Autism can be first recognized and diagnosed around the same age that you get this vaccine.
Recent studies have shown no correlation between the two.
Amara to claim that many, many well informed parents of children with autism believe there to be some kind of link between vaccines and autism because ‘some celebrity said so’ is insulting and shows your ignorance on a very complex topic. If only it were that simplistic.
Either way, this is not the forum for such a debate.
The doctor who conducted the only research ever that showed a connection between vaccines and autism later admitted that he made it up. He was stripped of his right to practice medicine and I think he may have actually killed himself a few years ago over it. Good riddance. There’s no telling how many people have and will continue to die as a result of morons like VEE here precipitating these ridiculous rumors just because her friend couldn’t control her temper.
Unfortunately I live in a country that still has third world illnesses because of the anti vaccine feeling. The autism link was found to be the “scientist’s” theory and he skewed the results to prove it. It was totally unfounded. The results of vaccination far outweigh the risks. I’m terribly sorry for your friend. It’s a terrible terrible thing, but extraordinarily rare.
The thing that people never look at is whos conducting the tests and even then everyone has there price. i haven’t been to the doctor/hospital in 8ish years and im great! you know how i know because i trust what i feel in my own body over what any doctor thinks because when you get down to the core of it doctors are just a different type of salesman not truly treating just….. covering up
Vee, you are absolutely correct. Also, lots of childhood diseases prepare our bodies for future inflammatory disorders. By vaccinating our kids for every damn thing, we are compromising their future natural immunity and setting up whole generations for prolonged chronic illnesses. If there is an epidemic or pandemic then vaccinations are called for, otherwise stay the hell away from the monkey liver pus and thimerisol (mercury-containing preservative).
Any one who chooses not to get vaccinated is plain stupid. people are being vaccinated against illnesses that will potentially kill them, or seriously affect them, not “every damn thing”. getting chicken pox at an older age is irrelevant to vaccinations, what you’re talking about is Shingles, and has nothing to do with vaccinations.
Okay….. let me put this to bed. As the PARENT of a SEVERELY autistic child (12 years old at this post), You better believe that I’ve probably done more research and dealt with this issue more than most, if not all, of the people on this forum. Fact is, there WAS a suspicion that autism was caused by childhood vaccines. They have since all but proved that this is not the case. There are just about an infinite number of types and levels of autism that a person can have, my daughter is one of the worst. The truth is, NO ONE knows exactly what causes autism, and to tell the truth, I doubt anyone ever will. But AS the parent of one of these children, I can agree that anyone who would deny thier child his/her early vaccines is pretty much a moron, and unfit to parent. You’re ASKING for your child to get a disease that not only will probably KILL THEM…. they are diseases EASILY prevented by these vaccines. As far as them causing autism, or any other ailment, for that matter…. I suggest you start doing some REAL research before you open your mouth about something that you know nothing of. I commend this man for all his good works. I wish that all those that had money would do things like this.
That is actually 100% false. The doctor who invented those claims even admitted to falsifying his data. There is 0 factual link between vaccinations and any mental illness.
1) This is also false, humans have millions of natural immunities. We vaccinate against illnesses that kill before our bodies can produce antibodies.
2) Chicken pox can kill anyone at any age. It’s always been more fatal in adults than in children, but this has nothing to do with vaccines. In any case, the risks associated with not giving a vaccine when available is always worse than getting the illness the vaccine is designed to prevent.
Frankly, you’ve simply bought into a myth. As I said, there is no proven(or even suggested based on data) that vaccines have anything to do with autism. Some people have bad reactions, but to say we shouldn’t have vaccines because of those rare cases is ludicrous. This isn’t the dark ages and we have medicine for a reason.
1)vaccines by their nature cause the body to create its own antibodies in preparation for the virus in the future. they promote NATURAL IMMUNITY.
2) the act of catching chicken pox when you are young is the same thing as using the vaccine, both expose you to the virus (vaccine in a smaller dose), then your body creates antibodies so that you will have no reaction to the chicken pox virus later in life. if you are not exposed to chicken pox or the vaccine early in life you will have bad symptoms later on in adult hood but there is no reason to make children suffer through an illness that can be prevented through vaccination
3) take a 1/2 hr class in what vaccination is and how it promotes your bodies own immune system before you comment.
Quite plainly and obviously, vaccines are meant to kill. There is a speech given by Gates that says that world population will grow less because of vaccines.
It’s impossible to support dumping mercury into little babies like that, unless you are one of the brainwashed masons.
Jonas Salk spent his life working on eugenics and eliminating ‘undesirables’ then suddenly he comes up with a polio vaccine. Which gives people polio.
The new name for polio is meningitis, so of course there is no more polio.
Well there are reasons a population might grow less other than your inferred deduction that vaccines are genocide. He may have been alluding to the fact that families won’t have to reproduce as often because the survival rate of children increases with vaccination. Why would he say this? To counter-argue the nay-sayers who believe increased survival rate would have a negative effect due to overpopulation.
Besides, without citations your points are moot, akin to those of conspiracy theorists. Dumping mercury into babies? Salk and genocide?
Also look up the clinical diagnoses of both meningitis and polio before you go around looking like an idiot.
Your assessment “plainly and obviously meant to kill” is plainly and obviously a load of carp.
Can you back this up? With something from the real world, not the fRight Wing?
Uh, the right wing? Are conservatives really less likely to have their children vaccinated than liberals? Or did you mean that Right Wing people are in support of vaccines?
In my experience most anti-vaxers are conservatives… though there’s always exceptions, as crazy is everywhere.
Yes, Brad, it is yet another conspiracy theory widely spread around my conservatives and other teabagger sorts like Glenn Beck and Michelle Bachmann.
Whaaaaat are you people even talking about. I’m generally a conservative in most areas, and in my experience, it’s the left pushing the anti-science/anti-vaccine thing. It’s their whole “natural” mentality, along with “grow local” “eat organic” “GM foods are poison” etc.
I’m a conservative and we vaccinate. I don’t trust my doctor when she says vaccinate, but I’d trust THE SAME DOCTOR to treat my kid if we caught whatever it is that we should have vaccinated her against?? Sounds like fuzzy logic to me.
@CG: I can see some of those folks falling for the anti-vax stuff, too. I was only speaking about the anti-vaxer’s I’ve met.
90% of people I know who don’t vaccinate are politically liberal. For the record.
And I am shocked at my own self for contributing to this inane comment thread but anyway.
I live in the S.F. Bay Area, and 95% of the anti-vaccine crowd out here are liberals, who still, in the light of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, claim that “the corporations” and the “medical establishment” are conspiring to make their children sick, just for the money. However, I hear the same crap from conservatives I know in other parts of the country. In this case, stupid comes in varieties.
Good god, will you Yanks ever drop the “liberal vs conservative” arguments? From a European perspective there’s very, VERY little to tell between you. Even what you consider liberal is still right of centre to us, yet every page on the net is filled with Americans accusing one side or the other of being “liberal douchebags” or “conservative fags”.
It DOESN’T MATTER who thinks vaccines are bad, the important thing is that they’re wrong and the science behind vaccines saving lives is thoroughly robust.
Well, put Steve I totally agree.
Also someone up the page mentioned something about hurting out natural immunity with vaccines. Vaccines are for things that will KILL you! its hard to build up an immunity to Hepatitis B.
How about the fact that I reacted to a vaccine and almost died? Or that my family members also experienced similar reactions that resulted in hospitalization? Or is that just hype? Yeah. You can trash talk the ‘anti-vax’ side all you want, but a near death experience was pretty convincing for me. Or maybe I was totally fine before I walked into the clinic, never had a problem with a shot before, and after the vaccine experienced a mysterious illness resulting in a four-day migraine, subsequent seizures and a recommendation from my doctor that i never get another vaccine. Surely that was totally unrelated to the completely safe, wonderful world of vaccines.
If you were well read you would realize that there is a small, extremely small percentage of the population that can actually have a bad reaction to a vaccine – it’s like an allergy, 100% of the population isn’t allergic to allergies, but some people are. Nothing in this world is fail safe, yet vaccines have proven time and again to be a minuscule risk. I vaccinate my child because I would rather protect him from polio or measles than listen to some random woman who says she got sick from the vaccine, and her entire family, which if did happen, would have hit the news – most, if not all were probably coincidences. Which is the problem with the vaccine debate – things don’t correlate just because they happen at the same time. If a mosquito bites me and I get a migraine, one didn’t cause the other, they just happened at the same time. To think otherwise just because some person says so is ludicrous.
Yeah… I’ve gotten so many vaccines. My mom never lets me miss any. You don’t see me in the hospital for mercury poisoning. Ones that prevent illness (like the flu shot) actually give you some of the flu so your body can become immune to it. Other than that I don’t think there’s any “bad”(but actually good) stuff in it.
Don’t feed the trolls.
But, Amber, they’re so hungry!
speaking of trolls have you seen the trailer on youtube for trolls 2…the best worst movie of all time
Don’t feed the trolls = Please stop saying things that are true that make angry, Christian-hating, liberals appear incorrect or *gasp* wrong. Because what is “wrong” anyway??
Quit it with the “OMG Liberals are evil”/”OMG Conservatives are stupid”!
p.s. if you still believe in God, you’re a moron, regardless of whether you’re liberal or conservative.
Vaccinations = Salvations
Have you seen anyone die of measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, diphtheria, anyone lamed by the polio virus? You should thank your lucky stars you were born in an era of vaccinations. Ridiculous movement to stop vaccinating = my child swam in the pool, he has a rash, he wore a life jacket in the pool. Therefore I will stop putting on the life jacket.
Unfortunately these diseases are coming back because of the anti-vaccine people. They don’t seem to understand that a vaccine that is proven to be safe is better than either a debilitating or fatal illness. :(
A friend of mine (who’s wife had polio when she was younger) was very intent upon telling people the benefits of vaccines, especially the polio vaccine. He said that in North America where so many diseases have been entirely, or nearly, eradicated because of vaccines (like small pox and polio), there was a greater chance of a person catching the disease through the vaccine than through other means.
So are vaccines dangerous? Yes, because a form of the actual disease is being injected into a person’s body. Do they help eradicate deadly diseases? Yes, small pox has been eradicated! Are evil doctors planning to kill of the population by poisoning vaccines? What? Do I have to answer this question?
My thoughts: Vaccines should be used whenever necessary, especially when a person is at risk. If you are going to a place where there is a high risk of Yellow Fever, get the vaccine! Vaccines should never be forced. I think there is however, a rush to vaccinate everything: I don’t think there is a huge need to vaccinate for chicken pox, as it is not a very dangerous disease. Also, with STD vaccines, why force someone to get the vaccine when they have no intention of being sexually active? If a person is or intends to be sexually active then get the vaccines. As for the flu vaccine, I personally have not received it, nor do I intend to, as I have only caught the flu once before, for me the risks outweigh the benefits.
a form of the disease is injected into the body. IT IS DEAD. IT DOES NOT CAUSE DISEASE. Get informed.
Actually, the MMR, which is the suspicious vax, is a live virus, among others. It indeed can cause disease, which is why people who are immune compromised such as those with AIDS have to be very careful and take precautions when receiving vaccines lest they do develop the disease they are trying to prevent. Since many if not most children with autism are also immune compromised, it is a logical correlation that it could affect them negatively as well.
Not ALL children – but for those who are predisposed to autism and were probably experiencing minor symptoms of it already, overloading their immune system with vaccinations can be too much of a shock to their systems and catalyst the symptoms of the disease that yes, they already had. It also explains why probiotics, which restore the immune system, are working wonders in some children with autism.
Did I help to inform you a little?
I thought all parents who were anti vaccinations were wackadoo until my own baby girl had a SEIZURE on the doctor’s table immediately following her MMR. Watching that happen to your child will cause you to get informed. Therefore, I delayed her second MMR until she was 5 since she obviously had an adverse reaction as a one year old.
You don’t have to agree with the hypotheses. But it is one postulated by parents of those who have autism, whom I guarantee you are among the most informed regarding the disease on the planet, who are neither ignorant nor “trendy” by any stretch of the imagination.
STD’s can be transmitted through various means, not always through sex. That is misinformation. Most can be passed through blood, so if let’s say a teacher is infected with hep and he has an open wound that may leave blood somewhere, any person with an open wound is at risk. Also, the vaccine for chicken pox is to protect those who have not had a vaccination or who have never contracted chicken pox in their life – if an adult ended up never getting it contacts a child with it, they get shingles which is not only very painful, but potentially fatal. The whole point of vaccines is to create herd immunity and to eradicate the disease so vaccines can stop. Picking and choosing is a person’s right, but at the risk of other’s peoples lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo
I was vaccinated, and I’m perfectly healthy. What now?
Find a new controversy ;)
Try adopting an orphan from Ethiopia. I get called evil all the time!!
This is a solid Troll. Good job Ava.
Wait a little longer Bill and you will be able to by LAMBORGHINI(the company) from Audi.
Vaccines are made up of DEACTIVATED bacteria, resulting in your bodies immune system to create defenses necessary for future incidents.
“like” Ava’s comment!
leave it to the topic of vaccines to bring out the crazies!
And I didn’t even know I was bringing it up!
They will always find you, Abraham. They lurk in the darkness, waiting for one small word to act as a catalyst to spread their message of bad science and government conspiracies.
Wait a minute….He’s a rich corporate jet flier (I assume)… Shouldnt he be “giving” his $10 mil to the US govt. so they can keep their entitlement programs running?
I mean seriously, spending your own money to save kids lives instead of giving it to Oba…er…Washington to wast…er…use? Cmon Bill! Get a clue! (insert heavy sarcasm)
Ps…more on topic, I wish I could save money that fast.
Dude what posted the extra note should ask Gates for a Lamborghini.
The polititrolls have ruined another good website comment section. Very disappointing.
That’s the entertaining thing about this blog’s readership: you never know what’ll set ‘em off. Comments are generally interesting and witty, until there’s mention of ‘controversial’ topics like women’s rights to vote or vaccinations, and be prepared to have to pick your jaw up from the floor as you read the commentary.
Anna, I really hope you’re not suggesting women should be allowed to vote AND administer vaccines at the same time!
Josh, my bizarre syntax said women’s rights to vote or vaccinations: a woman may either vote or get vaccinated. A vaccinated woman in the voting booth — I shudder to think!
Duh! Isn’t it obvious? Clearly vaccines turn normal people into trolls. It’s a TROLL conspiracy people! Wake up!
Sign the world is fu%ked? Taking a Bill Gates joke and forming it into a political debate. I believe BOTH Cons and Libs are running the U.S. Just run. Run as fast as you can.
Meanwhile, Steve Jobs never donated a single cent to charity, and in fact shut down all of Apple’s charitable and humanitarian activities when he rejoined the company in 1997. Bet Steve is wishing they had iClouds in Hell right about now!
I have to say that after reading all of the comments and carefully deliberation…. This is my favourite of all.
Your attempt at trolling is bush-league compared to Ava. ;-)
Found where at least some of the crazies hang out.
Anti-vaxxers, anti-Obama, and logical fallacies galore.
But where are the anti-abortionists and the UFO believers? Shouldn’t they have a chance to weigh-in too?