LOL well we all know where not to go.. Maybe this waiter had a bad attitude.. Hey, I’ve left pennies for tips before, and then i have talked with management be it good or bad. and i sure in the heak don’t believe in forced gratuity. These servers get what they deserve from customer to customer Nothing is written in stone where tips concerned or for that matter where I’m concerned. from 1 cent to a percentage of the cost of the meal.
I also have a tendency to tip the cooks/chefs if their food is good and presented well. This waiter had to been a real azzhole in order to get a negative tip. Management should of sent him/her home. We all know its the customers and service that make or break a business. I’m sure you all have watched Robert Irvine in Restaurants impossible
Holy cow; “we all know where not to go”? Maybe the waiter was bad, but maybe the customer was a complete jerk?
I just heard a piece on the radio recently about how services like Yelp are causing major trouble for good establishments, because one or two bad reviews, which can easily be posted simply out of spite, malice, or even be total fabrications, drive down business.
Yeah, you’re a jerk. Not paying is not an option. Walking in and ordering is agreeing to the terms of service. Also, I don’t care what the situation, if you have any good upbringing, you ALWAYS leave some tip.
To t.bliss – you have obviously never worked in the service/hospitality industry and know nothing about which you are speaking. (also, watching a tv show doesn’t make you an expert on anything.)
Hey T.bliss, great to hear your whole philosophy on tipping. Did you even understand the image? It’s funny and notable because the patron tipped the server *minus* $21.91. That means he/she thought the service was so bad, the server should be personally charged for the meal. It’s also 1am, so there customer was probably blotto. C’mon, it’s funny.
Who are you kidding t.bliss? If you agree with the patron then there is no way you ever leave a tip. “I have a tendency to tip the cooks/chefs” Please………..
Bad service? Rather, this is likely a case of bad bar patron. Look at the location, look at the time of night and you know this guy wasn’t served in “the dining room”. The morale of the story for the patron is: Don’t go out drinking if you don’t want/or are unable to pay for your $20 of booze and the morale for the server is: Don’t let drunk patrons complete and leave their bill at their booth or bar stool location. Process it for them and maybe call them a cab.
I know someone who puts an asterisk next to the tip, and an arrow to flip the receipt over. On the back he writes short notes, usually encouraging, although there was one instance of particularly bad service where he mentioned that the service was particularly bad before moving on to the usual encouragement.
I recommend you learn a little thing called “Math”
He put a minus in front of the $21.91, so the tip was NEGATIVE twenty one dollars, 91c, so the total being the amount + the tip is zero, thus the customer would have had nothing to pay
If you worked as a server you should know the difference between positive and negative numbers, otherwise how would you do discounts like two for one?
I was a server, and I believe that if you suck at your job and you have horrible service, you don’t get a tip. You get a tip if you are a good server, if not you better get better at it. I have a good upbringing and I am rather kind with my views but if you are in the customer service end of any business and you are bad at it, you shouldn’t be rewarded for your lack of efforts.
You know, I was a server – and this doesn’t necessarily mean that the service was bad. Looking at the date and time and location – the patron was obviously at a bar. He was probably wasted and didn’t want to pay in general… If it was the service, he’s obviously trying to point out that the server should have paid for the meal or drinks – either way I am pretty sure that you cannot negatively charge the card, regardless. Thinking about it, maybe the bartender was a girl, he was trying to pick up on her, she shot him down, he attempted his negative tip… in that case – good for her for turning down that loser…
If the server was guilty of any sort of bad service he/she gave, he/she would NOT have posted this picture, so calm down and quit over reacting! Oh and its just food.. not brain surgery. Anyone who overreacts to food/service is probably overweight and has an over-eating disorder. I feel bad for miserable people like you! good luck finding happiness again in your life! You miserable waste of life :)
As a former server and I think the current servers who comment on this will agree, EVERYBODY should have to do time being a server. WHY you ask? People will find out not everything is the servers fault, some people just can’t be pleased no matter how well/good a server is/does and some of the things people complain about are just plain ridiculous.
I never worked as a server but I did work as a customer service rep. for many years and also in the Medical field. I can tell you that you can never please everyone. I always said I never want to be a server because I know that people can be difficult no matter the service you give. That is why I quit the customer service jobs. Anything but that!
Actually, Gary, waiters will never make less than minimum wage, so the idea that money is being taken out of their pocket is just plain absurd. Tips are supposed to be gratuity (voluntary and outside of obligation). If a waiter/server can’t do the job correctly, and you feel that the service was lacking, a tip may not be warranted. I tip based on the service I receive, and last week a server took 10 minutes to come around and refill my glass of water, never asked if anything was ok, and never seemed to care. She got a 50 cent tip on a $60 order. At a different restaurant, with the same company, we had great service, never had to ask for refills, and the same $60 bill got a $20 tip.
Also, at restaurants that automatically add 15% “gratuity” for large parties, service has to be balls-on perfect to warrant any extra tip.
As a longtime food service worker in both the front and back of the house as well as management I believe I have a little perspective here. From a legal standpoint that is a 21.92 tip because there is no recognition of a negative sign on this legal document. That is law, look it up. If you feel you had bad food or service you need to bring it up to the manager on duty and 9 times out of 10 you will receive a free meal, a discount or a gift voucher. And last of all if you really want to tell your server how much they suck give them 2 pennies. To not tip or to do as the above customer did can be interpreted as an asshole customer but a penny or two is a pretty well understood statement, “I normally tip but you suck”. There is no excuse for being a crappy customer or a crappy server.
I bet EveBar is his stage name.
Eve Bar means Evening Bar :)
I agree. Not the most creative stage name! No wonder he got a bad tip.
Holy Cow, can you do that?
He just did.
It also says he was born on Dec. 29 and 30, 2011?
Maybe DOB means DATE OF BILL???? IDK “/
Elizabeth, probably means “Date Of Business”. :)Two dates because he was there through midnight on 12/29/11..
I agree with JILL, I just noticed that too. =}
Holly crap! Prairie Village Kansas? I use to live right by there!
That’s just a few miles from where I work
This is 98% definitely one of my customers
Welcome to my life
:(
FYL
LOL well we all know where not to go.. Maybe this waiter had a bad attitude.. Hey, I’ve left pennies for tips before, and then i have talked with management be it good or bad. and i sure in the heak don’t believe in forced gratuity. These servers get what they deserve from customer to customer Nothing is written in stone where tips concerned or for that matter where I’m concerned. from 1 cent to a percentage of the cost of the meal.
I also have a tendency to tip the cooks/chefs if their food is good and presented well. This waiter had to been a real azzhole in order to get a negative tip. Management should of sent him/her home. We all know its the customers and service that make or break a business. I’m sure you all have watched Robert Irvine in Restaurants impossible
Holy cow; “we all know where not to go”? Maybe the waiter was bad, but maybe the customer was a complete jerk?
I just heard a piece on the radio recently about how services like Yelp are causing major trouble for good establishments, because one or two bad reviews, which can easily be posted simply out of spite, malice, or even be total fabrications, drive down business.
Yeah, you’re a jerk. Not paying is not an option. Walking in and ordering is agreeing to the terms of service. Also, I don’t care what the situation, if you have any good upbringing, you ALWAYS leave some tip.
To t.bliss – you have obviously never worked in the service/hospitality industry and know nothing about which you are speaking. (also, watching a tv show doesn’t make you an expert on anything.)
Hey T.bliss, great to hear your whole philosophy on tipping. Did you even understand the image? It’s funny and notable because the patron tipped the server *minus* $21.91. That means he/she thought the service was so bad, the server should be personally charged for the meal. It’s also 1am, so there customer was probably blotto. C’mon, it’s funny.
Who are you kidding t.bliss? If you agree with the patron then there is no way you ever leave a tip. “I have a tendency to tip the cooks/chefs” Please………..
Bad service? Rather, this is likely a case of bad bar patron. Look at the location, look at the time of night and you know this guy wasn’t served in “the dining room”. The morale of the story for the patron is: Don’t go out drinking if you don’t want/or are unable to pay for your $20 of booze and the morale for the server is: Don’t let drunk patrons complete and leave their bill at their booth or bar stool location. Process it for them and maybe call them a cab.
I know someone who puts an asterisk next to the tip, and an arrow to flip the receipt over. On the back he writes short notes, usually encouraging, although there was one instance of particularly bad service where he mentioned that the service was particularly bad before moving on to the usual encouragement.
that’s not at all condescending.
That’s a pretty good idea, actually… May start doing that myself…
I worked as a server and the idiot actually tipped $21.91 as he put that on the tip line…
I would run it through that way, just to make him go through the hassle of a charge-back… and maybe he will have lost the receipt by then :)
jerk…
I recommend you learn a little thing called “Math”
He put a minus in front of the $21.91, so the tip was NEGATIVE twenty one dollars, 91c, so the total being the amount + the tip is zero, thus the customer would have had nothing to pay
If you worked as a server you should know the difference between positive and negative numbers, otherwise how would you do discounts like two for one?
Legally, the negative sign isn’t recognized. You lost that round, Phil.
That’s my town! (I’m ashamed of whoever that was)
I’m sure he was just passing through… :)
That was the most comforting thought I’ve heard today. Thanks, Abraham.
I was a server, and I believe that if you suck at your job and you have horrible service, you don’t get a tip. You get a tip if you are a good server, if not you better get better at it. I have a good upbringing and I am rather kind with my views but if you are in the customer service end of any business and you are bad at it, you shouldn’t be rewarded for your lack of efforts.
You know, I was a server – and this doesn’t necessarily mean that the service was bad. Looking at the date and time and location – the patron was obviously at a bar. He was probably wasted and didn’t want to pay in general… If it was the service, he’s obviously trying to point out that the server should have paid for the meal or drinks – either way I am pretty sure that you cannot negatively charge the card, regardless. Thinking about it, maybe the bartender was a girl, he was trying to pick up on her, she shot him down, he attempted his negative tip… in that case – good for her for turning down that loser…
How rude…some people just kill me.
If the server was guilty of any sort of bad service he/she gave, he/she would NOT have posted this picture, so calm down and quit over reacting! Oh and its just food.. not brain surgery. Anyone who overreacts to food/service is probably overweight and has an over-eating disorder. I feel bad for miserable people like you! good luck finding happiness again in your life! You miserable waste of life :)
As a former server and I think the current servers who comment on this will agree, EVERYBODY should have to do time being a server. WHY you ask? People will find out not everything is the servers fault, some people just can’t be pleased no matter how well/good a server is/does and some of the things people complain about are just plain ridiculous.
I never worked as a server but I did work as a customer service rep. for many years and also in the Medical field. I can tell you that you can never please everyone. I always said I never want to be a server because I know that people can be difficult no matter the service you give. That is why I quit the customer service jobs. Anything but that!
I’m glad that when I have a bad day at work, my customers don’t have the ability to take money from my pocket.
Actually, Gary, waiters will never make less than minimum wage, so the idea that money is being taken out of their pocket is just plain absurd. Tips are supposed to be gratuity (voluntary and outside of obligation). If a waiter/server can’t do the job correctly, and you feel that the service was lacking, a tip may not be warranted. I tip based on the service I receive, and last week a server took 10 minutes to come around and refill my glass of water, never asked if anything was ok, and never seemed to care. She got a 50 cent tip on a $60 order. At a different restaurant, with the same company, we had great service, never had to ask for refills, and the same $60 bill got a $20 tip.
Also, at restaurants that automatically add 15% “gratuity” for large parties, service has to be balls-on perfect to warrant any extra tip.
As a longtime food service worker in both the front and back of the house as well as management I believe I have a little perspective here. From a legal standpoint that is a 21.92 tip because there is no recognition of a negative sign on this legal document. That is law, look it up. If you feel you had bad food or service you need to bring it up to the manager on duty and 9 times out of 10 you will receive a free meal, a discount or a gift voucher. And last of all if you really want to tell your server how much they suck give them 2 pennies. To not tip or to do as the above customer did can be interpreted as an asshole customer but a penny or two is a pretty well understood statement, “I normally tip but you suck”. There is no excuse for being a crappy customer or a crappy server.
” From a legal standpoint that is a 21.92 tip because there is no recognition of a negative sign on this legal document.”
Huh? What is the negative sign on the receipt? (not to mention the math that was done)