Funny, but I wholeheartedly disagree with arbitrary. I prefer to pet the small, fluffy, and cuddly ones, and eat the ones with delicious, tender meat. There’s a bit of crossover there, but it’s certainly not arbitrary.
When I was a kid, my brother had a very large bird cage, in which he kept several pet quail. As I recall, they were small, they were fluffy, and they were even cuddly. As I have learned later in life, they are also delicious and tender. One person’s pet, one person’s dinner.
Not necessarily. I had a bird that would fly over and sit on my shoulder as soon as I can home, and he would nest down inside my hair in the evening to fall asleep. Also, I had a chicken that would come over to me for hugs.
Conversely, I’ve had cats who refused to have anything to do with me if food wasn’t involved.
Ever since the whole “Obama used to eat dogs when he was a kid” thing in the news a few weeks ago, I’ve been consumed with a single, burning question: DO THEY TASTE GOOD?!?
the human brain needs insane amounts of energy to function. the fastest and best way to get energy is through meat. i disagree with treating animals cruelly but i dont disagree with eating them.
My brain works fine, thank you very much! Eating animals is not necessary for anybody who is able to get rid of stupid traditions and to make informed decisions on his/her food.
If you are not too lazy to find out about healthy and ethically correct nutrition, you’ll probably agree…
Wow, Only took three responses to start throwing insults. I’m not “lazy” because I eat what nature intended but I also won’t throw insults your way for choosing to do otherwise.
Plus meat just tastes better!
I don’t think that was an insult, actually. “The human brain needs insane amounts of energy:” FACT. “The…best way to get energy is through meat:” arguable, but a fair statement. There are other ways of getting energy, like legumes or nuts, but they aren’t always as rich as the same amount of meat. I’m just concerned you’re being a little hypersensitive; some people are vegetarians (I was for a few years until it became horribly impractical), some people are not. It’s unfair to judge another just because they eat differently.
Were you responding to my comment about thawing insults? If so I was meaning that Annie called Adam lazy for not looking into other ways to eating. I agree with what you’re saying that what Adam said is indeed fact. I was only commenting that it only took three statements for someone to start calling people names rather than have a civil discussion.
Eating them is not cruel, they do not feel it or experience it in any way, shape, or form. How they are raised and killed for their meat or fur can be cruel depending on methods. It does not have to be cruel or torturous.
Well said :P We ARE all animals after all and the human species have always been omnivores :)
To Annie, I agree that too many people don’t seem to care about the SOURCE of their meat! I don’t buy mine from a supermarket, but from a local butcher so I always know his sources, and my meat is always local and organic. Plus, feeding animals hormones is banned in the EU full stop… so there’s that.
Also, I DO care a great deal about nutrition and follow a nutritionist’s blog among other things. I have been a vegetarian in the past and understand there are many other ways of eating but, quite frankly, I just love bacon… ^_^
Animals in nature don’t take other animals captive, breed them in tiny pens and then force feed them feces and ground up by-products of other animals and them pump them full of hormones and antibiotics to make their bodies produce large quantities of meat that is free of infection despite living in squalid conditions rife with disease.
The human brain does not need insane amounts of energy but about 20 percent. Concerning the fact that most people eat too many calories anyway I still think it is not necessary to eat animals. And: yes,I felt insulted by the comic. I think that every creature has the right to live, no matter if I have the power to kill it or have it killed arbitrary. Of course it is more convenient Not to think about These facts: that’s what I meant with lazy. I didn’t want to insult any carnivores :-)
20 percent of what? I’m not trying to be rude, but I don’t understand the way you’ve worded this! I agree that many people eat far more calories than they need (especially if you are in America, which I’m just assuming you are :)
But are you referring to the common belief that we only use 10/20% of our brains? Because if so, you should really see this….
“Of course it is more convenient Not to think about These facts: that’s what I meant with lazy. I didn’t want to insult any carnivores”
Yes. You did, otherwise you would have said: “it is more convenient Not to think about These facts” instead of “If you are not too lazy to find out about healthy and ethically correct nutrition, you’ll probably agree…”
Let’s not pretend you were trying to be anything other than rude.
hahaha I absolutely LOVE how sad and worried the bird looks in the 2nd frame, looking down at the drum stick >.< And the boy just looks so pleased with himself! So cruel…
oh WOW. It’s amazing where people will go with fuel like this! (and here I am adding to it). My boyfriend of 4 years is vegan- I’m not. We live our lives with a different conviction of what is truly ‘ethical’- I am convinced that veganisim is no different than a militant, dogmatic religion and this bothers me- however, I look around my world and wonder if we really have the right to kill a creature, chop up it’s muscles, toss them with some mayo, slap em’ on a bun and call it lunch- and what that decision means for this planet… the verdict is out. But I can say that the more my bond grows with my dude, the more my understanding (on both sides) of this delicate issue matures. I’ll let you know when I figure it out…
Perhaps it’s the sweeping generalizations, lame moral posturing or poor syntax, but it seems to me that Annie is none too bright and probably pain in the ass. The sort of person who benefits from medical care, yet postures against the suffering of animals. Care to venture a guess whence the word ” vaccine” comes from Annie?
As the Roman philosopher Plutarch stated, “But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh, we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy.
People who eat meat and other animal products generally do not know or think much about the impacts of their eating habits. Besides contributing to the horrendous mistreatment of animals on factory farms, they are also contributing to climate change that threatens humanity and, indeed, all life on the planet; widespread hunger, since so much grain is fed to farmed animals; widespread thirst, since huge amounts of water are used to irrigate feed crops for animals; soil erosion; rapid extinction of species; deforestation; desertification; air and water pollution; and many more environmental problems. A shift to plant-based diets is essential to help shift our imperiled planet to a sustainable path. And tere are many delicious, nutritious plant-based foods.
Funny, but I wholeheartedly disagree with arbitrary. I prefer to pet the small, fluffy, and cuddly ones, and eat the ones with delicious, tender meat. There’s a bit of crossover there, but it’s certainly not arbitrary.
haha I totally agree.
When I was a kid, my brother had a very large bird cage, in which he kept several pet quail. As I recall, they were small, they were fluffy, and they were even cuddly. As I have learned later in life, they are also delicious and tender. One person’s pet, one person’s dinner.
Yeah they’re kind of cute but birds don’t run up to you after a long day or sleep at your feet like a cat or dog does.
Not necessarily. I had a bird that would fly over and sit on my shoulder as soon as I can home, and he would nest down inside my hair in the evening to fall asleep. Also, I had a chicken that would come over to me for hugs.
Conversely, I’ve had cats who refused to have anything to do with me if food wasn’t involved.
I only eat vegetarians. Except for pigs … and chickens.
Ever since the whole “Obama used to eat dogs when he was a kid” thing in the news a few weeks ago, I’ve been consumed with a single, burning question: DO THEY TASTE GOOD?!?
their meat is a little ruff, but it’s not too hard to stomach.
something was done there…
I wonder this myself but for different reasons…
From one of my Asian friends who was forced to raise one by his grandparents, who then cooked it and fed it to him: Yes. They are entirely delicious.
Every creature has the right to live, it’s not my but nature’s decision to end it. Therefore I don’t eat animals!
the human brain needs insane amounts of energy to function. the fastest and best way to get energy is through meat. i disagree with treating animals cruelly but i dont disagree with eating them.
My brain works fine, thank you very much! Eating animals is not necessary for anybody who is able to get rid of stupid traditions and to make informed decisions on his/her food.
If you are not too lazy to find out about healthy and ethically correct nutrition, you’ll probably agree…
Wow, Only took three responses to start throwing insults. I’m not “lazy” because I eat what nature intended but I also won’t throw insults your way for choosing to do otherwise.
Plus meat just tastes better!
I don’t think that was an insult, actually. “The human brain needs insane amounts of energy:” FACT. “The…best way to get energy is through meat:” arguable, but a fair statement. There are other ways of getting energy, like legumes or nuts, but they aren’t always as rich as the same amount of meat. I’m just concerned you’re being a little hypersensitive; some people are vegetarians (I was for a few years until it became horribly impractical), some people are not. It’s unfair to judge another just because they eat differently.
Were you responding to my comment about thawing insults? If so I was meaning that Annie called Adam lazy for not looking into other ways to eating. I agree with what you’re saying that what Adam said is indeed fact. I was only commenting that it only took three statements for someone to start calling people names rather than have a civil discussion.
Marci, I was more concerned with Annie getting upset over what didn’t seem to be an insult.
I think eating animals means treating them cruelly.
Annie, are you ok with eating animals that eat other animals? I mean they are treating those other animals equally cruelly
Eating them is not cruel, they do not feel it or experience it in any way, shape, or form. How they are raised and killed for their meat or fur can be cruel depending on methods. It does not have to be cruel or torturous.
i am not a purely spiritual being; i am a part of nature. therefore, my decision to end their lives is not inconsistent with your major premise
Well said :P We ARE all animals after all and the human species have always been omnivores :)
To Annie, I agree that too many people don’t seem to care about the SOURCE of their meat! I don’t buy mine from a supermarket, but from a local butcher so I always know his sources, and my meat is always local and organic. Plus, feeding animals hormones is banned in the EU full stop… so there’s that.
Also, I DO care a great deal about nutrition and follow a nutritionist’s blog among other things. I have been a vegetarian in the past and understand there are many other ways of eating but, quite frankly, I just love bacon… ^_^
Animals in nature don’t take other animals captive, breed them in tiny pens and then force feed them feces and ground up by-products of other animals and them pump them full of hormones and antibiotics to make their bodies produce large quantities of meat that is free of infection despite living in squalid conditions rife with disease.
What about animals that eat other animals? It is kind of the same thing here. We are just eating other animals. It kind of is like in nature.
Exactly why I’m vegan! :D
The human brain does not need insane amounts of energy but about 20 percent. Concerning the fact that most people eat too many calories anyway I still think it is not necessary to eat animals. And: yes,I felt insulted by the comic. I think that every creature has the right to live, no matter if I have the power to kill it or have it killed arbitrary. Of course it is more convenient Not to think about These facts: that’s what I meant with lazy. I didn’t want to insult any carnivores :-)
20 percent of what? I’m not trying to be rude, but I don’t understand the way you’ve worded this! I agree that many people eat far more calories than they need (especially if you are in America, which I’m just assuming you are :)
But are you referring to the common belief that we only use 10/20% of our brains? Because if so, you should really see this….
http://twentytwowords.com/2012/01/24/10-common-myths-debunked/#comment-227540
The brain uses about 20-25% of our daily calories. Not insane amounts. That’s all I meant.
“Of course it is more convenient Not to think about These facts: that’s what I meant with lazy. I didn’t want to insult any carnivores”
Yes. You did, otherwise you would have said: “it is more convenient Not to think about These facts” instead of “If you are not too lazy to find out about healthy and ethically correct nutrition, you’ll probably agree…”
Let’s not pretend you were trying to be anything other than rude.
hahaha I absolutely LOVE how sad and worried the bird looks in the 2nd frame, looking down at the drum stick >.< And the boy just looks so pleased with himself! So cruel…
oh WOW. It’s amazing where people will go with fuel like this! (and here I am adding to it). My boyfriend of 4 years is vegan- I’m not. We live our lives with a different conviction of what is truly ‘ethical’- I am convinced that veganisim is no different than a militant, dogmatic religion and this bothers me- however, I look around my world and wonder if we really have the right to kill a creature, chop up it’s muscles, toss them with some mayo, slap em’ on a bun and call it lunch- and what that decision means for this planet… the verdict is out. But I can say that the more my bond grows with my dude, the more my understanding (on both sides) of this delicate issue matures. I’ll let you know when I figure it out…
Perhaps it’s the sweeping generalizations, lame moral posturing or poor syntax, but it seems to me that Annie is none too bright and probably pain in the ass. The sort of person who benefits from medical care, yet postures against the suffering of animals. Care to venture a guess whence the word ” vaccine” comes from Annie?
Says you! Anyone who tries to win an arguement by only cutting down the other person with insults is the one who has no brain.
Win.
As the Roman philosopher Plutarch stated, “But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh, we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy.
People who eat meat and other animal products generally do not know or think much about the impacts of their eating habits. Besides contributing to the horrendous mistreatment of animals on factory farms, they are also contributing to climate change that threatens humanity and, indeed, all life on the planet; widespread hunger, since so much grain is fed to farmed animals; widespread thirst, since huge amounts of water are used to irrigate feed crops for animals; soil erosion; rapid extinction of species; deforestation; desertification; air and water pollution; and many more environmental problems. A shift to plant-based diets is essential to help shift our imperiled planet to a sustainable path. And tere are many delicious, nutritious plant-based foods.